6.6 | Your YES Indigenizes the Timeline

> Isha Vela: Welcome to Waking Up Wealthy, the podcast for visionaries and rebels who are ready to revolutionize their relationship with money and create powerful collective ripples with the money they make. I’m your host, Isha Vela, trauma psychologist, somatic practitioner, financial professional and minimalist, bringing you practical money tools, unconventional wealth perspectives, and Aquarian era business strategies to guide you in building wealth that’s aligned, ethical and empowering. Let’s wake up to the true meaning of wealth together.

>> Isha Vela: There’s a void, a feeling of nothingness. Like you’re floating through space and you’re aware that you’re no longer attached to the old thing, but you’re not fully yet in the new. It’s this in between space. It’s quote unquote in process, it’s not fully formed. And most the time the void, that liminal space, feels like absolute terror to the parts of us that desire certainty and safety. Welcome to another episode of the Waking Up Wealthy podcast. This is Covid edition, which is a little bit like the Twilight Zone. Seriously though, I’ve been, I’ve had Covid for the last week. I don’t know if it was activated by these new treatments that I’m doing for my, immune system, digestive system, whatever made me sick 15 years ago. I’m trying a new approach. and like the Twilight Zone episodes, there’s this moment of inevitable madness. And I swear that Covid brings along with it like this descent into specific emotions, right? That’s part of the design of COVID so yes, this is born out of the inevitable madness that I felt on Saturday. but also this is an Aries edition, and my ascendant is an Aries. there’s lots of planets in Aries right now. I’m m not going to talk about the astrology because I’m not really

>> Isha Vela: good at that stuff.

>> Isha Vela: I just follow it for my own orientation. and this episode is going to be a little bit more personal. and what the personal is telling me about the collective, what’s happening in the collective right now. and as you know, I’ll start with a story. as you know, I’ve been living abroad, I’ve been world schooling my kids and I’ve been meeting lots of people, from all over the world, who have lived in all parts of the world. And you know, I’ve obviously had amazing experiences, lots of connection, lots of social time. It’s been really nourishing. And I’ve also had experiences more recently where I’ve noticed that even though we choose a similar lifestyle, our values are not necessarily, you know, similar in ways that have been rather shocking to me. And maybe you can relate to this. Maybe this is becoming clearer to you as well. So this happened. I, I, this became like clear to me when I was, when somebody was asking like, hey, you know, people, parents organize kids activities, right? And so they were organizing ah, a group around Vibe coding. AI Vibe coding. And I was like, you know, like, My kids are totally like, you know, I’m not. I’m not pro or contra AI at least not yet. and I want my kids to learn about it, even though, you know, I don’t necessarily want them to, like, use it a lot, knowing what I know about water and all the things, right? Surveillance, robots, whatever. But I was like, okay, so, you know, in this conversation, as they’re sort of planning out the curriculum for the students or and for our kids, I ask a question and I say, you know, as part of the curriculum, are we also educating the kids on the, like, mindful use of AI or the impact of AI on the environment, on our humanity, on our brains and the risk? And that was an honest question. It wasn’t kind of like a snarky, like, I’m smarter than you, maybe? There was a little bit of that. But, you know, really, it was like an honest question because I was feeling gaslit in that group because nobody was talking about it. And I was like, why, Why aren’t we talking about this? And the response that I got was. It was this really. It was like, confusion at my question. there was deflection in the form of humor. Somebody quoted game theory about remaining competitive. Like, basically they were. They were talking about, like, M. You know, game theory says that we need to get ahead or. Or like, use AI to stay competitive. And I was like, yeah, but I don’t subscribe to competition. So, like, that doesn’t make sense to me. What about the impact on water? And we are already seeing, you know, deserts forming in certain areas, or data centers being built in neighborhoods of color or, you know, in. In where land is cheap, et cetera, et cetera. Right. yeah. And so it. This whole experience made me realize that there’s a split happening in the world. There’s a whole split happening. Like, ah. like it feels like a rupture, but it’s almost like a. Like a organizing, event between people who are literally not aware of what’s happening in the world because maybe they are shielded from what’s happening in the world or because they willfully refuse to see it. There’s, you know, and it’s not necessarily just people who are privileged, but there are also people who are not privileged and choose to remain unconscious, asleep, etc. Right? So there’s that group of people, and then there’s the people that are the change makers, the way showers, the disruptors, the creative visionaries, the consciousness keepers. Right? All of this. These. This whole other population, which I Call, you know, in sort of this umbrella term that the healers. Right. and there are like actually people out there that are, who are pretending everything is okay, who are going about their lives like business as usual. And I see this online as well as in person. I’ve been seeing lots of post recent posts recently about like, your, your problem with money isn’t this, it’s that, and like, and it’s like every person is saying something different. I’m just like, oh my God. I just want to cut through this. so we’re going to talk about this. We’re going to talk about this. Okay. We’re going to, we’re going to get into why people cling to these old ways. because you’re going to be probably seeing it more clearly in your own lives, maybe with people you love, maybe within your own family. And there’s like a whole letting go process that’s happening with that, letting people do their own thing. Just being like, okay, you’re, you’re going to be doing that. Well, do that over there. I’m going to be over here. and we’re going to keep that part short because I don’t want to linger on the part where, you know, the old stuff. I also want to get into the antidote. So this is where I’m offering, a solution that will provide orientation, maybe even hope, ah, and direction as this split in consciousness or the split in awareness happens. So first I want to talk about, like, you know, when we talk about system collapse, right? When we’re talking about old templates, I want to talk about what templates actually are because it’s important, when we think about the meaning we put into them. So when we talk about systems collapsing, like I said, we’re essentially talking about unsustainable and essentially like anti life templates reaching the end of their viability period, they’re essentially becoming extinct. And templates are, as you can imagine, organizing systems, right? They’re, they’re schemas, they’re a way. There’s. There, they are a way for us to understand what’s real, except that they’re not truth. And I’ll say more about that in a moment because that part is, is that most important part. So an example of a template is marriage. It is religion, it is capitalism, it is linear career paths, it’s, it is even nuclear family. Right. Some things that I’ve already talked about as part of this podcast. Any external system, you used to tell you who you are, what matters, what to do next, etc. A template will tell you to get married, to have children, to build a career, to monetize such and such, to yeah, what to do in any situation. tells you to accumulate wealth, be productive, be a good person. And as long as you’re inside of that template you have, and you’re buying into it, you have answers.

>> Isha Vela: Hey, real quick before we get back to the episode. You keep saying you want an indigenous matriarchy now, and I believe you. But wanting it and building it, are two different things. And the gap between them is usually the absence of a system.

>> Isha Vela: So I built one.

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>> Isha Vela: You know what a good day looks like, you know what success means, you know who you are in relation to other people. It’s essentially a pre organized meaning it’s assumptive and it’s accepted as reality because it’s the only thing you’ve known. It’s present the moment you’re born and it becomes part of your unconscious, right? The sort of the, the background and it makes the world legible even though the content of that writing is fucked up and inhumane. Okay, so when we think about these templates collapsing, this is not a crisis, right? It’s a threshold, essentially an initiation. So a crisis is when something goes wrong and it needs to be fixed. It’s a bug if it’s a crisis. Your nervous system’s job is to stay steady. It’s to basically get equilibrium after being sort of shocked out of equilibrium. it’s about restoring what was right both in your system and in whatever you know. This template, a threshold, on the other hand, is a passageway. Like I said, it’s an initiation. And it means that you’re leaving one room, one space and entering another. And the space in between doesn’t have a floor yet. And the difference is not semantic. It’s semantic. And how you experience it depends on how well you manage uncertainty. And so if it’s a threshold, your job is to move through it. You’re not trying to end the experience, but trying to be in it, exist in it, even thrive in it long enough to arrive at something else. Basically, it’s a little bit like treading water and hopefully something better will arrive. And that’s what I’m going to be offering in a bit like how you can generate that better thing. And I just want to name that in your body, it can feel like a crisis, like there is disorientation, there is groundlessness, there is the loss of reference points. And what changes is the meaning you assign to those sensations and experiences. So that meaning that you, that meaning determines whether you contract around the experience or stay open inside of it. And I’m, I’m inviting you to stay open inside of it. Right? That’s why I’m doing this episode. And the meaning you create inside of holds the possibility of what, that, you know, what feels like disintegration. If you can stay present inside of it, it’s going to be initiation, right? It’s the caterpillar to butterfly. That’s where we’ and because you are a healer, a change maker, a way shower, a consciousness keeper, like all the words that we describe, sort of the, you know, the healers and the creative disruptors, you have been through this initiation so many fucking times, in your personal life. And now it’s happening on a bigger collective level, right? And I, want to speak a little bit to why the body clings to anti life templates. I want to talk a little bit about what’s happening in the collective and, and you know, how it’s affecting some of the people in your life. So the nervous system needs that predictability to feel safe. and templates are a co. Regulation strategy. It’s, it’s a way for the body to borrow safety, right? We borrow safety from religion because it just gives us, it’s anchors us, right? It’s, it’s symbolic, yeah, it symbolizes borrowed safety. And when the template starts to crack, there are experiences of disorientation, meaningless, meaninglessness, grief. I see that happening with a lot of people. Like, people say they’re sad for no reason, or they, like, they’re like. But I, you know, I live in this beautiful place and I go to the ocean and I just feel so sad. And this is what’s happening. Like that sad for no reason or that. That emptiness, that. That’s part of it. And this is not a breakdown. This is not like, you know something’s wrong with you. It’s a human response to losing reference points. And even though the reference point was up, and I know that you’ve been in this for a while, you’ve known that those reference points were up. But again, we’re going deeper into this now. And when reference point present themselves as reality, as the way things are, having them come apart at the seams makes sovereignty feel like you’re losing your mind rather than coming home to your truth. Because you’re not just changing your opinions. You’re dismantling the structure that was holding your sense of self together. And when the template cracks through, let’s say a rapid revelation of. Of previously secret files, you lose orientation to self. And for the folks who have been down conspiracy rabbit holes, it won’t be as sudden. It won’t feel as, like, massive to you. It’s going to feel a lot more subtle, which is why I need to say this, because you’re going to be feeling things and you’re going to wonder, like, but I already knew that. Like, I already knew all these things. Why am I feeling this? Your body is in a different place than your mind is. you know, I know this is not your first rodeo of transformation, but for the folks who are new to this, it’s going to be a bigger shock to them because the thing that was generating meaning for them has completely failed. It’s no longer reality. So the reality is shattering. And that’s why, you know, people hold on to this so much. Sorry, I had to. I had to cough. so this is the important part. The template was never the meaning. It was the delivery system. And when the delivery system breaks down, the meaning doesn’t disappear. It just has no container. So this is both a terrifying and sacred moment. This is the void that I’ve referenced at the beginning of the episode, what feels like an empty void of nothing, Nothingness. But that is actually something. So let’s let me go back to. The template is not the meaning. Okay, let me cough for a second. so marriage is a template. So the template is the structure that holds and communicates the meaning, which is love and partnership in a form other people can recognize and respond to. It tells everyone where to show up, what to wear, what role to play. It organizes the experience of partnership and love into something legible. Right. It’s agreed upon. But if and when the marriage falls apart, you don’t grieve the template. Even though people say, I’m grieving the loss of my marriage, but what they’re really grieving is the dissolution of the partnership, the connection, the vision of a life you thought you were building together. So that’s why I say the template was just the delivery system for that meaning. It’s not the meaning itself. The problem is that most people were handed the template before they ever had access to their own meaning. So we never learned to distinguish between the two. And that’s called in, you know, trauma informed whatnot. It’s called over coupling. It’s like the Venn diagram that looks like a circle, right? The template arrived first, and the meaning got poured into it by default. And the template became the meaning because there was nothing else to organize around. It was just what is. There were. There weren’t other options. But the template and the meaning are actually two very different circles and quite far apart from one another. Okay. So when the template cracks, it feels like meaning is leaving. It’s. It, It’s like. Yeah, there’s like, loss. Right? But what’s actually leaving is the container and the meaning. Your aliveness, your pleasure, your values, the moments where your system lights up. In other words, your. Yes, that has always been there, template or no template. And for those of you, like, if you’re listening to this and if you’re feeling like your life is losing meaning, that’s a sign of growth, right? If you’re feeling that. That sadness that, like, you’re. Let’s say you’re in the woods, you’re hiking, and you’re in this beautiful place, and there’s, like, a sense of emptiness inside. Like, it’s not your typical response. You’re usually, like, really, like, lit up by things. Or, like, me, you wake up wealthy in the morning. You kind of like, oh, my God, thank you for this other. Thank you for this new day. You know, like, yeah, maybe you. Maybe you still feel that, but there’s another. There’s a tinge of something else that’s a sign of growth. That’s a sign of uncoupling. And you know, it’s similar to. I’m thinking about when, you know, the moment I realized that my personality wasn’t just the way I am, but that it was instead a set of defenses that was, was set up or that I set up to protect myself from unfamiliarity, from fear, from overwhelm. Right, from disconnection. And this is a similar thing. So you know, this feeling, now you’re knowing it in a different way. Before, maybe it was personal. Right. The things that you thought were real about you are no longer real. And now we’re sort of doing it more on a global systemic scale. So, so what do we do in the terrorizing liminal space? Isha. Okay. What do I hold hold on to in the void? Well, I’ll share a little bit of what I’m doing that ties into the antidote. First, I’m going to have a drink of water. So I, I wanna, Yeah, so I wanna share what I’ve been doing. which I haven’t shared up to now. I’ve been actually engaging in a lot of volunteer work locally. I’ve been really driven to do that. I haven’t really questioned why, but it’s kind of like this is where I want to put my energy, right? My energy is like, let’s go there. and I’m also, I’ve also been teaching an in person series on sovereignty based on classes that I taught online in 2021 and 2022. And this was of course during the retrograde. so I was, you know, I was retrograding and I was pulling up all of this old material because it felt relevant in the moment. Like the stuff that I’ve been teaching is like, it’s, it’s basically like it’s always been. Right? It always is. And it’s always been because it’s about humanity, it’s about sovereignty. And I, I’m using the money that I’m get that I’m getting paid for these classes to fund supplies for the places I’m volunteering at. Right. Orphanage school for disabled kids, et cetera, et cetera. And this was a yes move that created more labor for me. I got up early to plan my classes. It made me more busy. I was doing WhatsApp marketing. But it felt like a worthwhile investment of my energy. It just felt really alive and exciting and real. Did it make sense for my business? No, probably not. Was, it a revenue generating activity intentionally? Not, perhaps in the future, in the far future, but truly like I have no clue and I don’t really care. That was not the purpose. And so what I’m suggesting

>> Isha Vela: is that

>> Isha Vela: the answer, the answer to the void or the liminal space is not a new template. It’s actually a new relationship with the present moment. Right. So I mentioned just a little bit earlier, pleasure, aliveness, delight. Yes, as navigational tools. So what I want to ask you now is where does your system actually light up? Where does your operating system kind of like get excited, not judging where it should light up, Just where does it light up? Where do you find God in the small moments? Not in institutions, not in the doctrines, not in the templates. Right. And this is an important question because the templates that are failing have been designed to suppress and disconnect you from that healthy. Yes. Impulse, from your healthy desires. Like the ones that, not the material desires, but the desires that are like, purely, like the sacred ones, right. The, the ones that are divine. And these healthy impulses, these desires, this, yes. This is essentially the human life force. This is human life force energy. And this signal, this. Yes. Has been domesticated. It’s been toned down or it’s been completely turned off. And this is especially true for women. For men, it’s. It’s different, you know, it’s, it’s toned down in different ways. and I don’t really feel like getting into it right now. I’m sure that you know this already. but I just, you know, I just want to address that. Many, many people have written about this from all different disciplines. How. I think Charles Eisenstein wrote that in the Ascent of Humanity. I think part of his initial chapters were about this. You know, even educators have written about like the, the, the dumbing down, the, the killing of creativity as part of the school system, like all of those things. Right. And then it happens in from all different angles and it sort of attacks, or eats at this divine signal, this very natural human signal. And the rage you felt or are feeling is part of turning it on, right? And you’re turning on the healthy fight response. Like, rage is part of, like reconnecting to the body and to the signal. You, you’re essentially moving from, a conditioned fawn response, right? The systems will condition you into fawn if you aren’t, if you aren’t born with it. Right. Like it conditions you into fawn. And so you’re, you’re turning on a healthy fight response, this life force energy. You’re turning your light on, your life force on. And I go more in depth on this during Restoring the Witness, which is episode three of season six. So just a couple episodes earlier. And what we now understand is that. And understand again in a different way. Not, not new to you, but now that you understand in a different way. So the templates and the. And the beings, I won’t say people who’ve designed them have harvested your life force. They’ve preyed on creativity and generativity by preying on children when that. Yes. That. Those impulses. That life force is typically the strongest. Right. Because, you know, throughout your life, like, you know, children are born with this, you know, almost. Probably full to almost full access to this life force. Right. Unless they have, you know, trauma at birth. Right. When some of that life force is compressed, etc. Etc. But that life force is the strongest when you’re a child. And over the course of our lifetime, we sort of like, we make cuts to it. We make, you know, we, we. We cut off parts of ourselves to appease, to be like, to survive essentially. Right. So we cut off parts of our authenticity. And this life force is wealth. That’s why the predatory class literally feeds on it. So whatever makes you feel alive, whatever you feel nurtures that. Create a fire. Do that thing. Okay. This is the, this is the antidote. This is really important because when you ask most people what they would do if money wasn’t an issue, if they didn’t have to work for money or they didn’t have to survive by making money, they would say things like engaging in woodworking. They would become explorers, they would become musicians, they would be artists. they would become the parts of themselves they had to leave behind in order to become functional citizens of these templates. Okay. Or obeyers to these templates. And this following of. Yes, this obedience to life force energy is a sovereignty practice within the void, within the liminal space. Right. Responding from your. Yes. From your impulse is an act of freedom. And this is very Aries season energy, like I said. And it’s a huge you to the template that also, That also, you know, to disconnects you from that creative impulse. This is, this is what it looks like to live from your own signal rather than an inherited script. Look, I could have written an episode on financial literacy. It’s, you know, tax season. I could have written an episode about taxes, about, like, how to organize your business. Like I have, you know, you can download Rooted to Rise. You know, you can do all of those things. Right. I could have written an episode on savings and investments or on Money, energetics. But my impulse was screaming for me to do this instead. So I said yes. Even though it doesn’t make sense, even though it’s not linear, even though it’s not, not necessarily going to monetize. But this is what the moment is asking you to do. Right. This is like an astrological moment. This is about you learning to trust your own life force as a compass. Right. And this you doing that has the potential to determine the trajectory of this timeline. And what I want to say about that is when you follow your yes, you can decide whether we’re going to go into whatever apocalypse. Right. A lot of what we see online is like this is going to be the apocalypse, the time that timeline, there’s another timeline of freedom, of the matriarchy, of indigenizing. This is, you know what I’m talking about is a process of indigenizing coming back to the body. This is essentially central focus of my work. and whether that happens. Right. The direction or the trajectory, which trajectory you choose depends on you choosing this. Yes. Or choosing fear based behavior. It’s up to you. It’s up to us. All right. You have free will. The baby eaters don’t decide the timeline, we do. There are many more of us than there are of them. And the more you honor your humanity and that of others, the more humanity you beget. Right before the new structures appear. Move from your yes. Create from your yes. And that can be wherever you are. Right. Like maybe you don’t have, I don’t know, the resources to say if you wanted to learn an obscure instrument, maybe you don’t have an is a resource to purchase the instrument or purchase a course. You can do this on YouTube. You can like learn to read music or, you know, there’s a lot of ways to access that. And yeah, wherever you are and in the smallest ways, create from. Yes. Choose yes. In the liminal space. So in closing, want to reiterate that there’s a split happening in consciousness and that you may be feeling some things. whether it’s just somatically, whether it’s just like you’re aware of it, you’re clocking it, you’re tracking it, or your body is just kind of like, I’m feeling this grief or I’m feeling this like, you know, and I’m gonna be honest with you, like on Saturday I was really, really, really sick. The sickest I’ve been in a long time. And I had this like full on emotional grief process where I was Grieving the loss of the artist and me. The. You know, I was always good at art. It was part of my identity. I always thought of myself as an artist and a life artist and, but also, like, you know, I make. I make beautiful things. and I haven’t practiced in years and years and years making, like, physical art, making visual art. And I am getting into it. I’m moving from the yes. And I’m also recognizing that, you know, having been out of practice for a really long time, it’s tragic the way my. My abilities have, like, declined because I just haven’t been giving space to that creative impulse. Right. And that’s why I want to share this with you today. it’s important for me to share that story. And I didn’t share it earlier because, I was feeling very vulnerable about it. but it’s important. And, you know, being on the other side of that, like, that emotional breakdown, like, I really felt that the. The tragic loss of having to have functioned in my life to, you know, to make money, to become a psychologist, to become a, you know, somatic practitioner, was more of a yes impulse. Right. So I didn’t do that to survive or to, you know, make more money or any like that. I just did it because, like, oh, my God, my body was seeking this. This experience. It didn’t make sense at the time, right. But, But I, you know, and then I had children. And, you know, you focus on the kids, and then you don’t necessarily always follow the creative impulse there either, even though your children are, like, nurturing that in you. But, like, I watch my children every

>> Isha Vela: day, and they are super creative.

>> Isha Vela: And I told them, like, as I was writing this episode, like, you inspire me every day. Like, you show me what I am not doing and what I’m not saying yes to. And it is through them that I’ve actually come back to art. that I’ve been feeling that. That pull. And I’ve been feeling it for a while. I’ve mentioned it before, and I resist it. I resist it all the time. it’s scary to me. and because it’s big, it’s really, really like, it’s amazing. So following that creative impulse can bring up a lot of emotions, that are uncomfortable to feel. And, you know, we’re also seeing this, the split happening, so it’s also going to bring up a lot of feelings. And so I want to say all that just to kind of like, provide, I guess an understanding of where we are evolutionarily. And the work now is practicing to honor the. The. Yes. To honor that reality. That. That the template was never the meaning, that you and your life force was always the meaning. And whether you are saying yes to the creative life force, whether that’s a new reality or whether you’re doing that now in riskier ways. And I’m saying this to you because, you know, as a change maker, you probably have been in that process for a really long time. And now the ask is for you to turn up the volume on your truth. like in your body, in. In what you say, in how you show up in the moment right in front of you. Like, that is the gold Aries moment of right now. All right, that’s it for today. I could say more, but I’ll leave it there. And, I love you lots. And I’ll see you. I’ll see you in the next episode.